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they were ready to go to the mat. >> and the key person in this deal is paul ryan. it has been fascinating watching him after the election, he voted of course in the fiscal cliff deal. he was there today talking the republicans down on this a little bit. you know, if you thought after the election he would prepare for 2016 if he indeed runs, trying to be a conservative on the right flank, he seems to be on the right of the caucus. >> and one of the best john boehner anecdotes, saying that paul ryan was hanging out, being a whispering, talking about the debt limit and about why the short term makes sense. and remember, there has always been a fissure between the leadership and back bench, but ryan appeals to both crowds and taking that responsibility, willingly, happily, being the person to mend fences within these two blocks of the house republican congress. >> it is a huge, interesting development in the political career here. thank you guys for being here and all the great reporting over the week. >> thank you. >>> coming up, republicans have an explanation for th
they were ready to go to the mat. >> and the key person in this deal is paul ryan. it has been fascinating watching him after the election, he voted of course in the fiscal cliff deal. he was there today talking the republicans down on this a little bit. you know, if you thought after the election he would prepare for 2016 if he indeed runs, trying to be a conservative on the right flank, he seems to be on the right of the caucus. >> and one of the best john boehner anecdotes,...
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. >> the gathering of gop luminaries, top conservative congressman eric cantor, paul ryan, senate power brokers jim demint, jon kyl, tom coburn, and event organizer frank luntz. >> they decided that they needed to begin to fight obama on everything. this meant unyielding opposition to every one of the obama administration's legislative initiatives. they all talked about this and they began to get more and more optimistic and they left feeling practically exuberant. >> full of events, ten. count them, ten. >> across washington that evening -- >> stunning crowd of people. >> the new president had no idea what the republicans were planning. >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states and first lady michelle obama. >> surrounded by supporters at the inaugural balls, the mood was hopeful. ♪ at last my love >> president obama didn't have a full sense of what washington was going to be like for him. he had not been in the middle of these kind of down and dirty fights. the ugly reality of governing in washington today. >> that really did end up being a hallmark of president ob
. >> the gathering of gop luminaries, top conservative congressman eric cantor, paul ryan, senate power brokers jim demint, jon kyl, tom coburn, and event organizer frank luntz. >> they decided that they needed to begin to fight obama on everything. this meant unyielding opposition to every one of the obama administration's legislative initiatives. they all talked about this and they began to get more and more optimistic and they left feeling practically exuberant. >> full of...
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when you've got someone like marco rubio, a rising star in the party, paul ryan, saying we're ready to do a deal here, but the devil is in the details as they always say. democrats feel very emboldened on this issue, and they're going to sort of, you know, swing for the fences. they want full legal status, including citizenship for undocumented immigrants and it's not clear how far republicans will go to do that. >> scott, it is clear that they're listening because senator rubio had before only supported very small steps in the immigration reform debate, a series of small bills. he did not want a big sweeping bill. now he's sort of changing his tune a little bit saying, you know what, i might support that. i wanted to drive this home for california as well. carla, what role do you see california playing in this immigration debate? >> well, california is home to the largest number of undocumented immigrants. an estimated 3 million of them. this is a place where the dream act is going to be an issue. we've seen the organizing that's gone on on immigration. political pressure for presiden
when you've got someone like marco rubio, a rising star in the party, paul ryan, saying we're ready to do a deal here, but the devil is in the details as they always say. democrats feel very emboldened on this issue, and they're going to sort of, you know, swing for the fences. they want full legal status, including citizenship for undocumented immigrants and it's not clear how far republicans will go to do that. >> scott, it is clear that they're listening because senator rubio had...
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what i was struck by was paul ryan's role. telling them that they have to have a strategy. and that they have to tread carefully right nowity upcoming fights. >> one of the things that was announced the rebranding of the campaign group, obama for america, and jim messina was on, a few minutes ago to talk about the new group. it was going to work as an advocacy work to advance the president's agenda. do you think that committee will be able to successfully help the president without the president being on a ticket? >> i think that -- i think that the organization will. i think that one of the things that he is putting in place is a really amazing organizing infrastructure, be it through social media. he galvanized people to take part in the political process in a way that he has not before. so there's an opportunity to keep this base moving and working for him. >> what motivates th s thathat e another guy that he is running against, and being able to say, we may not be wild about the president, but we do not like this guy. >> it's so different when we are talking about gover
what i was struck by was paul ryan's role. telling them that they have to have a strategy. and that they have to tread carefully right nowity upcoming fights. >> one of the things that was announced the rebranding of the campaign group, obama for america, and jim messina was on, a few minutes ago to talk about the new group. it was going to work as an advocacy work to advance the president's agenda. do you think that committee will be able to successfully help the president without the...
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i didn't hear it from paul ryan, and i didn't hear it from the leaders. and that's the part i don't get. the debt ceiling, three months, whatever. the continuing resolution, that's a little bit in the weeds. but all right. fine. you can work with that. but i didn't hear them say what that was going to mean for spending, either. >> that's a great point, larry. they're not articulating spending cuts enough. but when you have someone like paul ryan at this retreat in williamsburg leading the effort behind the scenes for the short-term extension, he's telling members, especially the skeptical back benchers, that when that cr comes up in a couple months, when that sequester fight comes up and defense cuts in a couple months, house republicans will push for the spending cuts but they don't want to lose the pr bat toll a president who's very adept at pointing his finger at republicans and saying they want to cause default. >> okay. i think they're losing the pr battle anyway. >> perhaps they are. >> i mean, i don't know. i know obama's very fassel, but i also kn
i didn't hear it from paul ryan, and i didn't hear it from the leaders. and that's the part i don't get. the debt ceiling, three months, whatever. the continuing resolution, that's a little bit in the weeds. but all right. fine. you can work with that. but i didn't hear them say what that was going to mean for spending, either. >> that's a great point, larry. they're not articulating spending cuts enough. but when you have someone like paul ryan at this retreat in williamsburg leading the...
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paul ryan described it best when they said one of the things we're discussing is the fact that we control the house they control the white house especially following the results of the november election. >> it sounds like they're changing the tone a little bit. >> this was really important for the house republicans because they didn't do this when it came to them coming into power after two years ago when they took back control in 2010. so it helped for john boehner to get his troops in line and to get the conservative groups onboard with the budget proposal and to get that messaging across, very simple line. no budget, no pay, right? it's tweetable. it's something that they can get republicans, tea party republicans all onboard behind that and be united in a way that you haven't seen so far over the last few years. >> it's also one of the messages that will resonate with folks in this country who hear we'll stop paying them? we dislike them anyway? we should cut their pay? >> with all of the talk with republicans being in control with most of the statehouses. it's a complete nod to state
paul ryan described it best when they said one of the things we're discussing is the fact that we control the house they control the white house especially following the results of the november election. >> it sounds like they're changing the tone a little bit. >> this was really important for the house republicans because they didn't do this when it came to them coming into power after two years ago when they took back control in 2010. so it helped for john boehner to get his...
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you beat up paul ryan's budget because what it did in trying to address, begin the conversation on social security and medicare. you ripped him a new one on that and yet the president still hasn't put anything on the table. so where is your -- >> most americans oppose it. >> karen -- this is the problem. we get the, oh, you guys have a bad plan. but we don't have that one. >> that's not true. >> you have a bad budget but we don't have one. you want to cut spending but you don't want to raise taxes. we've raised taxes now. where's your spending cuts? >> the president's signed $2.4 trillion of spending cuts already implemented over the -- >> cuts that are already slated to go for previous budget. it's the old washington trick. >> you're going to say the budget control act the president signed last -- >> this is where we are. and we ask ourselves will something get done in the next six, eight months? no. >> this is where we are. >> just made my job easily. i was just listening. >> one more thing to the table the president has done as a woman and democrat, i am very glad that we had president
you beat up paul ryan's budget because what it did in trying to address, begin the conversation on social security and medicare. you ripped him a new one on that and yet the president still hasn't put anything on the table. so where is your -- >> most americans oppose it. >> karen -- this is the problem. we get the, oh, you guys have a bad plan. but we don't have that one. >> that's not true. >> you have a bad budget but we don't have one. you want to cut spending but...
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ryan in the house. seeing a build between the house and republicans, between the house republican, excuse me, and the senate democrats, on immigration reform. that's a ticket item we could definitely see him pass. >> house republican, senate democrats. here's the deal, amy. when the president started out four years ago, he controlled, democrats had control of both houses. so how much does that change his approach to trying to check off this wish list? it's not that way anymore. >> no, it's not. compromise is the name of the game. he's seeing that republicans want to compromise on certain issues. with gun control, you're hearing certain republicans talk about background checks. a willingness to do that, also some parts of immigration. i don't know if it's going to be some grand, sweeping deal, but, you know, republicans suffering a loss with the hispanic vote want to see that happen. i think if they can find middle ground on these issues he can have a successful term. >> if not now, gun control, lauren,
ryan in the house. seeing a build between the house and republicans, between the house republican, excuse me, and the senate democrats, on immigration reform. that's a ticket item we could definitely see him pass. >> house republican, senate democrats. here's the deal, amy. when the president started out four years ago, he controlled, democrats had control of both houses. so how much does that change his approach to trying to check off this wish list? it's not that way anymore. >>...
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the writing was on the wall yesterday when republican budget chairman paul ryan told members they need to be prepared for a debt ceiling increase. the attitudes from republican leaders are a lot different today. senator jon cornyn of texas wrote an op-ed said it may be necessary to partially shut down the government in order to secure the long-term fiscal well-being of the country. now cornyn tells the chronicle editorial board we will raise the debt ceiling. we are not going to default on our ded debt. two years ago, they were gloating over their debt ceiling hostage strategy. >> no president in the near future, maybe in the distant future, will be able to get the debt ceiling increased without a reignition, reigniting of the same discussion of how do we cut spending and get america headed in the right direction. i expect the next president, whoever that is, will be asking us to raise the debt ceiling again in 2013. we'll be doing it all over. >> today, mitch mcconnell doesn't sound so tough. instead of demanding spending cuts on entitlement reform, here is his new demand. the america
the writing was on the wall yesterday when republican budget chairman paul ryan told members they need to be prepared for a debt ceiling increase. the attitudes from republican leaders are a lot different today. senator jon cornyn of texas wrote an op-ed said it may be necessary to partially shut down the government in order to secure the long-term fiscal well-being of the country. now cornyn tells the chronicle editorial board we will raise the debt ceiling. we are not going to default on our...
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host: what about paul ryan? stories coming out about his being quieter in the background, especially since the election. did he have any say in this or shaping of the policy? >> yes. paul ryan since he's come back to congress from the presidential trail has avoided taking questions and kind of kept his head down. but at this retreat he played a very important role in a couple ways. first of all, he was very active in leading discussions with the republicans when they were trying to decide what their strategy was, and he also came out and talked to reporters and kind of floated this idea of the short-term debt ceiling increase, and he was part of a group of five conservatives who blessed this deal on friday morning. jeb hencer ling of texas and steve of louisiana and jordan of ohio and ryan. so it remains to be seen whether that will be kind of a center of power going forward. host: as far as those five signing on to this deal, what's been talking about the members, especially on the republican side and -- will a
host: what about paul ryan? stories coming out about his being quieter in the background, especially since the election. did he have any say in this or shaping of the policy? >> yes. paul ryan since he's come back to congress from the presidential trail has avoided taking questions and kind of kept his head down. but at this retreat he played a very important role in a couple ways. first of all, he was very active in leading discussions with the republicans when they were trying to decide...